Solar Supercharge: Superman Prime One Million remained in Earth's sun, labelled as the "Super-Sun", for 15,000 years, increasing his abilities to unknown but presumably titanic levels. Yep. R1/R2 - Depends which Post retcon as their is two, this goes for Molecule man also, the Half Cosmic cube MM and Beyonder and the Inhuman/mutant Beyonder and the Beyonders powered MM. Dem nah, There's toaa, pre retcon beyonder, toba,and true form oblivion as obvious choices but there's actually alot more. Beyonder one writer turned the Beyonder into nothing more than a street-level jobber begging his Daddy or the Lost One to give him some of his powers to create a universe full of gambling and girlfriends because he probably doesn't have the power to do it simply because the Lost One is the source of all his powers and abilities. TOAA: Got KOed by Thanos with the Regulator, stated he wasn't omnipotent unless the multiverse had "order", smaller multiverse. Mxyzptlk, Lucifer Morningstar, & Maxwell (DC) VS Pre Retcon Beyonder, Molecule Man & Galactus (Marvel) 2. We would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. Although, if you forced me to choose one, i'd say Beyonder is a little above Molecule Man. 2. When super-amped Doom battled the Beyonder he got stomped hard. But the Beyonder can destroy universal conceptual beings (as seen above when he kills death itself). Creation. Beyonder is millions of times more powerful than the Living Tribunal. • Speed: The Beyonder doesn't have too many solid speed feats, Omnipresence isn't considered as a speed tier but rather a state of existence + he's only omnipresent within his realm. Not to mention Beyonder detailing Doc Strange's win con over him, tailor. K. 7 K. The Watchers. 0. Locked post. Creaturemaster971. ^2 + DUR^1. Presence isn't all that impressive either, but enough to. Pennywise beyond infinite-D has no basis. 12984. Master/Crazy Hand, Tabuu, Galeem/Dharkon. Named but mid-level Celestials. Thought Robot without any effort. 9 K Beyonder one writer turned the Beyonder into nothing more than a street-level jobber begging his Daddy or the Lost One to give him some of his powers to create a universe full of gambling and girlfriends because he probably doesn't have the power to do it simply because the Lost One is the source of all his. 6. Beyonder before the retcon was stronger than TLT. The old prerecton beyonder wasnt the same as the current beyonders, but he was related to them. Respect Pre-Retcon Beyonder. Join this channel to get access to perks:Credits to THZCheck out YFV (@YFVillainYT). @kingkronos said: @Pwok21 said:. Using these lines of evidence, pre-retcon beyonder clearly wields greater control over reality than OT god. Follow 41274. Yes. Both Beyonder (assuming this is him outside his personal realm) and the Presence, since both are like Low 1-B, this could go either way. In terms of straight up feats CAS Lucifer and Mandrakk all technically show better feats then Perpetua. PRE RETCON BEYONDER goes to the DRAGON BALL universe and fights all Dragonball characters at the same time - this includes Zeno Sama, The Angels, Whis, All Gods of Destruction, Broly, Goku, Vegeta, etc. 548. (They Became the HOI, basically writer tier, or paper tier). I feel like Pre-Retcon Beyonder can do practically anything unless someone "more omnipotent" negates his power in some way. PR Beyonder had full backing by Marvel Boss, Jim Shooter to do anything he wanted. ProfessorRespect. 213. That being said, I’m going to give this one to the pre-retcon Beyonder. He'd be incredibly more versetile with his approach in the fight. #31. 2. In terms of scaling, the downplay of most of the entire Marvel verse was frustrating. Tier 0/0 > Tier A. 1st Retcon - Beyonder was a cosmic cube who dreamed everything (so SW & SW II did not happen) . The rest was necessary PIS to make a more interesting story. the other is a High Tier Reality Warper with disgusting hax also. We need Patreon donations for this forum to have all of its running costs financially secured. 1 of 2 Go to page. Jack Kline can’t do shit. Member. R1: Lucifer wins Mid-difficulty R2: Pre-recton beyonders wins high difficulty. So he could just kill them and the concepts they represent. He was initially. Origin: Marvel. Classification: Cosmic Entity. He grew into a weak-willed adult, made bitter and lonely by his mother's death, and full of fear and hatred of what he regarded as a deeply unfriendly world. He wins. the Source blinks Pre-Retcon Beyonder. His anti-feats are plot-induced because it's attempting to tell the story of him trying to figure out the Marvel multiverse because it's so tiny and simplistic in scope to the Beyonder realm. Wiki Points. Created by. So I might be missing something. SCP-682 (SCP Foundation) vs Beyonder (Pre Retcon) Fight ends only in Death. Making Beyonder stronger than a Tier 0 is not at all the same as scaling him to TLT. He killed all the beyonders who were the grown ups of this pre Retconned beyonder and literally absorbed their power and he was able to actually trap am. George and Jessica vs Gaap and Ronove. Skyfather. Pre-Retcon Beyonder 10/10 destroy Flash. PR Beyonder is probably the strongest comic character there is if you go by feats alone and not by hype. R1: Pre-Retcon Beyonder Takes Low-Mid Difficulty. It depends which version of Molecule Man, Pre-Retcon Molecule Man will win against Dr. Pre-retcon Beyonder is his most popular matchup, or at least the one I see most often, but who's his closest?. GameStop Moderna Pfizer Johnson & Johnson AstraZeneca Walgreens Best Buy Novavax SpaceX Tesla. 4 12 12 comments Best Top New Controversial Q&A CynicalWeeaboo • 7 yr. In one of those layers of nonexistence, the one who would soon be known (in one incarnation) as SCP-343 comes into being. All of Thanos’ feats are fodder tier in comparison to him. True form DS power is unknown. i wanted to do this match but their was also too big of a tier gap, but now it can happen both 1-A obviouslyYujiro copies The Beyonder's abilities but then says he won't need them to defeat him before showing The Beyonder the woman in him. #44 Edited By Debunker020202. Beyonder is a cosmic Marvel Comics comic entity created by Jim Shooter, Mike Zeck and John Beatty. Lucifer Morningstar in character could probally beat him. Disable any adblocker and tracking prevention then try again. The Physical Timeline Multiverse of DC has changed sizes from being 52 Timelines. Mar 9, 2022. It's simple. He was like the 2nd strongest guy in Marvel, only underneath the One Above All. @jashro44. Pre-Retcon Beyonder for the win, its just that one panel's narration about being billions or was it millions of times more powerful then all the multiverse combined, thats what convinces me he is above TOAA. Pre-Retcon Beyonder, as powerful as he is, is STILL bound by dimensionality. There are other impressive feats to show, but they are all after the retcon. Not even remotely close. Molecule Man utterly in fear admitted that Beyonder (Pre-Retcon) is on levels unimaginable to him and self-stated that he cant Match Beyonder (Pre-Retcon) in power meaning that Beyonder was infinitely more powerful than him even when he was above all the powers of the cosmic hierarchy (Including: The Living Tribunal himself). 5. Beyonder 73%. Yet beings like Nyatharlope can create infinite numbers of infinite universes of infinite dimensions easily. The Beyonder, and Molecule man, are each. . I don’t know anything about Anos Voldigoad, but Beyonder beats pretty much anyone so I’ll. You know that. Hit a Like And Subscribe To Help Out💵 “Wanna Donate/Support? 💵👇🏼👇🏼👇🏼👇🏼👇🏼👇🏼👇🏼👇🏼👇🏼👇💰PayPal💰. Manhattan. The entire Watcher. "For the. Yes, the Ivory Kings are retcon back inspirations to Pre Retcon Beyonder, but they are merely inspirations. Jump Force Goku view all Shonen as fiction how will Pre Retcon Beyonder will win. I am allowing characters who only appeared once and characters that aren't part of the main Canon. 11,582. the dunamis demiurgos is supposed to be a 1/half copy of the presence's power. Goku is low outer at best and byonder is easily outerversal. Every Super Power has a score (SPS) that is used. Not an expert on Beyonder, I just have a rough idea of his tier of power. Weaknesses. I am unsure post-retcon Beyonder would even beat that version of her, which was a far. Powers and Stats. Archie sonic defeated someone who could destroy millions of MULTI-VERSE zones. . Then there the Beyonder Child unit thing that is related to The beyonders. People rank Oblivion very high because of the statements made about him in Chaos War but you can apply that to any evil character with vagueish powers, like Cyttorak or whatever. Pre Retcon Beyonder shitstomps the edgelord version of Batman into the ground, along with the rest of the DCverse. Beyonder stomps Whole Touhou fodder verse with a thought,while beyonder has feats and proof of being 1-A(Outversal) not being limited to infinitely high geometric dimensions to the verse itself, there is touhou's verse in which the dimensions have been debunked and do not qualify as superior and the ability of yukari only works on beings of a level below her and. He was not aware of other Beyonders and misinterpreted his personal universe as everything in existence. • 1 year ago. Though with infinite power he is far more concerned about his place in life after being the all and everything within his realm he tries to understand the concepts of Life, Death, and Desire all things that he want experience. Older than the. Even lower tier characters in Mythos would. Within the beyond realm, he's supposed to be omnipresent. 664*10^25. Plot Manipulation user (Marvel Comics) Defenders: Beyond #1-5 Beyonder Post-Retcon: It was stated and proven that he was capable manipulating his own canonicity and is aware of his own pervious retcons. Manhattan is super strong. The Pre-Retcon Beyonder TOAA is Marvel and the Presence/Elaine Belloc is DC, but there's a quote by Jim Shooter and Stan Lee from Marvel that puts The Pre-Retcon Beyonder more higher--even above TOAA, (including Elaine Belloc AKA the Presence) and that's “being millions and millions of times more powerful than Marvel". Pre-Retcon Beyonder. 1. 140. He is superior to LT, but to what degree is unknown. Pre-Retcon beyonder could be said to be the "God before genesis" he was God before TOAA existed in the comics at that time, and when TOAA came into existence as an omnipotent character they had to greatly reduce the power of the Beyonder, from there they began to know him as "Post-retcon beyonder". The Beyonder is a cosmic entity of immense power. Random encounter. He is only nigh-omnipotent, nigh-omniescent, and nigh-omnipresent. Matter of fact she doesn’t even beat Mister Mxyztplk. 3 years ago. Lucifer and Michael together are omnipotent. 5 years ago. xyrzrockrain. It should however be noted that sometimes having overall destructive capacity is not enough to defeat others that have "broken" or "hax" abilities. The original Beyonder was created for the Secret Wars (1985) miniseries. Belligerents: Composite Time Lords from Doctor Who and the Pre-retcon Beyonder from Marvel Comics. Nothing's ever more ridiculous than claiming a guy who got extremely tired just from erasing Death from the multiverse, jobs like fucking crazy during Secret Wars II and lost a serious fight to Rachel Summers (which everyone seems to. here is a fight that involves. This is just plain wrong, we see SK fighting abstract entities like the 5th God who infinitely dwarf the entire collective of human consciousness, wich in the verse includes Platonic and Neoplatonic philosophy, several religions like Buddhism and Taoism, and alephs and other higher teir mathematics. @amendment50 @jardinain2 @decaf_wizard @watcher5000 Can help you out with his feats. Tiering System: High 1-B | 1-A Name:' The. If i had to lowkey choose one blindly, i'd go with PRB. I have him at Multiversal. The being known as the Beyonder is, in fact, a young member of an. even the abstracts in marvel have an odd sort of "cosmically punching each other" way of expressing their power, where lucifer sort. 5 years ago. Morals off. English Branch All Mighty can knock out SK tier entities by casting flood and elder gods who hold back from accidentally destroying entirety of existence are sitting in his shadows, that's enough for both lucifer and beyonder. Basically, either or both can be considered to be the presence, in either it's evil or good forms. And yeah he stomps. R1: Pre-Retcon Beyonder Takes Low-Mid Difficulty. Gender: Inapplicable (As the character stated, "he" was made of energy and could assume any gender that "he" wanted) Age: Unknown. Oblivion hasn't done anything himself aside from Quasar, and in Quasar, he stalemated. The One-Above-All - vs - Beyonder (Post-Retcon) # 35 K The One-Above-All Thats so * dumb, Post-retcon beyonder is universal+ and scales below eternity, pre-retcon beyonder might have a chance as he is the full beyond realm which infinitely transcends the main marvel multiverse TOAA includedBeyonder one writer turned the Beyonder into nothing more than a street-level jobber begging his Daddy or the Lost One to give him some of his powers to create a universe full of gambling and girlfriends because he probably doesn't have the power to do it simply because the Lost One is the source of all his powers and abilities. vs. Edit: Looking at the respect threads PR Beyonder actually seems a lot more impressive, and it seems my point regarding Lucifer being half the Presence was wrong. Not Pre-Retcon Beyonder’s either. Since the Chaos Gods have no way to kill him, he'll eventually win. Bonus round : pre retcon beyonder vs Rimuru. PRB was millions of times more powerful than all the poster in the Multiverse combined. Bill also got more experience than Beyonder since Bill is over 1 trillion-year-old. All Characters are at full powerView community ranking In the Top 1% of largest communities on Reddit Pre-Retcon Beyonder (Marvel) vs Rebirth Superman (DC) The both of them at their strongestBecause his existence makes cosmic tier debaters run from me in discussions. 8 years ago. I can break this down into more detail. PR Beyonder is millions of times stronger than the Marvel multiverse. A desperate Molecule Man begins crying about the. What Makes marvel only H1B while DC is Layers into Tier 0? Does DC truly scale higher than Marvel, is it the other way around or are they practically equal?. Every Super Power has a score (SPS) that is. ago. It's stated so multiple times throughout the comics. P. CsmicRanker1314 1. Nov 5, 2017. That being said, Pre-Retcon Beyonder was the HIGHEST tier character Marvel ever had. Pre Retcon Beyonder wins with ease! He is literally beyond everyone and everything (ofc not TOAA) and a multiversal threat. Beyonder, Solar vs. Sep 6, 2015. Manhattan's league. And Anyone that says Dragonball characters can beat someone like the Living Tribunal is delusional. Pre retcon beyonder was more of a plot device than a character lol. Ima go with byonder. He was like the 2nd strongest guy in Marvel, only underneath the One Above All. 13 years ago@TheLegendary32 said:. Wiki Points. Again, I don’t kno Fu, but if he’s Hyperversal as ur sayin, or even higher, then he’d def beat Post-retcon. Celestials > Post-Retcon Beyonder > Phoenix Force. (after experiencing limitation during the Doom comedy in SWI) Genius, in terms of a perfect segue to sell more comics. Not only this, due to scaling, Hajun has taken. the_doctor. And with this analogy, Alovenus/Ruphas can create L1A character A in fiction A, But can easily defeated By character B In fiction B. Morals off. Scarlet King (SCP) Respect The Scarlet King (SCP Foundation)beyonder (pre-retcon) eternity galactus (marvel comics) marvel comics molecule man oblivion thanos (marvel comics) the beyonders the first firmament the living tribunal Replies: 12; Forum: Questions and AnswersPre Retcon Beyonder Stomps, the only powers that could hope to challenge him are The One Above, the Ultimate Source, The Presence, The Living Tribunal. About Press Copyright Contact us Creators Advertise Developers Terms Privacy Policy & Safety How YouTube works Test new features NFL Sunday Ticket Press Copyright. Pre-Retcon Beyonder was the literal principle and the executioner at the same time yes their was scans of Beyonder TANKing universe busting and faster than light attacks he even was able to. 0. and to give Beyonder a curiosity, a reason to visit Earth in SWII. If someone can actually name a more. Bernkastel first summoned few thousands kitties, Will resisted for a while, but it did not take long for the cats to rip off one of his. And if we are talking about Cosmic hierarchy then Perpetua is higher tier then Mandrakk. #2 deactivated-629d3023b5b49. than i understand from other blogs Pre-retcon Beyonder is High 1-A/ High Outerversal in beyond-realm. From incredibly superficial research, it's the whole "Shadow/Dark Reflection of God" thing that has been knocking around in DC since the old Swamp Thing days. 5 years ago. . Holy moley. Post-Retcon Molecule Man easily overpowered the Post-Retcon Beyonder. Street----- Post-retcon isn’t anywhere near as powerful as Classic (Pre), but he’s still pretty powerful. Originally posted by the DarkoneThe brothers are the most powerfull in there Multiverse. 2 years ago. beyonder post-retcon ii (aka beyonder-inhuman-mutant) 4. Universal. 43. He'd beat composite Superman, let alone this robot. As in you're taking the story at face value. Comparing Multi-Eternity to baseline High 1-B, like the Glory is, is like comparing 10-B to High 3-A, or Low 2-C to 2-A. Now after the retcon the Living Tribunal, and by extension Michael and Lucifer are above the Beyonder. Superhuman. LT got rekt by beyonder Reply Ozymandias935 • Additional comment actions. Edit: Darkest Knight and anti-crisis wonder woman probably also beat the beyonder, as they are empowered by the infinite crisis or anti-crisis energy (the fundamental good/bad energies of the universe, as provided by the presence. everything else is nothing to him Galactus. • Speed: The Beyonder doesn't have too many solid speed feats, Omnipresence isn't considered as a speed tier but rather a state of existence + he's only omnipresent within his realm. . Powers and Stats. The Chaos gods are tough to kill as they are powered by and represent concepts. 412. There's a reason why the word "retcon" is used; pre-retcon Beyonder doesn't exist anymore. This was obviously an insane level of power so he was eventually retconned to be weaker and also. 'Twas always thus, and always thus will be. beyonder (pre-retcon) eternity galactus (marvel comics) marvel comics molecule man oblivion thanos (marvel comics) the beyonders the first firmament the living tribunal Replies: 12; Forum: Questions and Answers Pre Retcon Beyonder Stomps, the only powers that could hope to challenge him are The One Above, the Ultimate Source, The Presence, The Living Tribunal. We would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. Posts. God’s best feat is him creating the concept of light with a single command, while Beyonder has crazy other things that are more impressive. 4 years ago. ) Pre-recton Beyonder, was the sum of everything. everything else is nothing to him Galactus. The realm is known as the Engine Room, The Wild Spaces Beyond Reality, Heaven, The Mystery, The. The Primal Monitor is the whole DC. #. Well COIE Anti Monitor, as powerful as he may be, is actually a little out of his league here. Basically, I am perfectly fine with rating pre-retcon Beyonder as likely 1-A, as Oblivion had already been established at the time, but if Marvel establishes a new character that. g. #1 KalKent1297. Even if it wasn't I'm pretty sure this wasn't added due to being a stomp. Nothing's ever more ridiculous than claiming a guy. . Jul 16, 2022 #2 Pre-retcon Beyonder: Low 1-A cap Perpetua: 1-A cap yeah this is a stomp in Perpetua's favor . #20. Seriously at his peak height, Pre Retcon Beyonder was something that no current DC character could handle. But basically Dr. Scathan has decided he no longer "Approves" of the beyonders exsistance. R1: Post retcon Beyonder vs Bleach verse. In other words the only feat the One Above All has that is confirmed is creating a reality of infinite. The following is an overview of our Tiering System. Multiversal. 4 years ago. The beyonder is accordingy to comic book guys a 5th tier cosmic. laj11900 • 2 yr. The Beyonder/s (Marvel) vs Bleach universe. Let me remind you that SCP verse is much bigger than both Marvel and DC. Yes I'am aware of that but you to remeber that with the Inhuman Beyonder was that this retcon took him back to his Pre-Retcon roots and also everything Pre-Retcon Beyonder did is still cannon to. which. Which then would put the DC team a few steps below the over-void - DC's prime meta. Here, let me pull a Beyonder feat out of my ass: With mere thoughts, the Beyonder subjects the entirety of Earth and all of its' inhabitants (down to the very microbes) to his rule, causing the most powerful leaders to bow to him instantly. There has been several incarnations of the Beyonder, each a retcon of the one before. Pre Retcon Beyonder is far far beyond any of his other forms. Ruphas not in baseline L1A, Ruphas can easily defeated Alovenus which is rated L1A character. Not Pre-Retcon Beyonder’s either. Matter of fact she doesn’t even beat Mister Mxyztplk. PR Beyonder > Celestials > Phoenix Force. So I might be missing something. LT literally held the entirety of Marvel and DC universe in the palm of. No, he is likely Presence level. Nov 25, 2017. -5. A High Nigh-Omnipotent being; with no limits. Current Beyonder Tier upgrade CRT and coverup. Hajun via feats and implied power. Sep 20, 2018. CCC Gilgamesh vs Pre-Retcon Beyonder. ( INT^1. He's was designed by Jim Shooter to be a catch-all explanation for the existence of all the other fiction. Or, more accurately, He wills the predominating aspect of his presence from non-being to being, from void to reality, yet still encompassing both. 1 Answer. He also sits just below the prime meta-versal being in his respective property. The Voice - This is the most "active" version of God, When The Voice uttered the first word, it created The Word. First Tier Mages vs Molecule Ma Round 1: The Mages are sane and aren't Marauders. Yeah,it’s been retconned . ago No. In Secret Wars 2, the Beyonder was above the real Living Tribunal (In the retcon, it was. The Beyonder was originally an organizer of a massive. Apparently due to the latest post about Doom people are claiming some Bleach characters like Aizen can beat The God Emperor. PRB has a lot of showings that would suggest otherwise. @zxzcczzcxz said: Fodder comic verse that lose to barely street tier verse and can't beat Warframe and Destiny vs high. . 2 years ago. " (Fun fact, guys like EGD and Beyonder exists outside. Rune King Thor is still under Omnipotent beings such as The-One-Above-All and Pre-Retcon Beyonder. @bballaag: No, even pre retcon beyonder cannot defeat The Presence or even TOAA. A statement from Mephisto referring to that part of power as "so potenti is this. I don’t know anything about Anos Voldigoad, but Beyonder beats pretty much anyone so I’ll. Pre-Retcon beyonder could be said to be the "God before genesis" he was God before TOAA existed in the comics at that time, and when TOAA came into existence as an omnipotent character they had to greatly reduce the power of the Beyonder, from there they began to know him as "Post-retcon beyonder". We would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. The only other non-Omnipotent characters in Marvel who might even rival a bloodlusted pre-Retcon Beyonder for one are. "But only in their dreams can men be truly free. Xeranthemum from Suggsverse, at least going by the wiki. Rick has tried to go toe to toe with one of his universe’s “gods” and it went. 7 K than i understand from other blogs Pre-retcon Beyonder is High 1-A/ High Outerversal in beyond-realm. Its not like the writer of marvel has dominon only over character. Can he beat them?Magi and Saint seiya can take down the post retcon versions but not pre retcon. the Elder gods should be top of their tier. Alovenus is the strongest in fiction since Alovenus>Omnipotent beings. 1 Answer. Originally posted by the Darkone Spectre at full powered is above the pre-recon beyonder, Spectre is powered by God, I'm sorry that's one Ace even the pre-recon Beyonder can't overcome. A Time Lords) from the. Abraxas, the personification of the destruction of the multiverse, is likely somewhere around here, although since he only. Pre retcon beyonder was stronger than all of marvel multiverse combined with exception of TOAA. He can´t beat Lucifer. @dami24434: cosmology expansion. THe nature and effects of the Retcon are irrelevant. If we ignore Thought Robot's plot manipulating and implied power and go by feats, then I think Beyonder stops at round 9. 2nd Retcon - The BEyonder. Wiki Points. Beyonder is a top tier reality warper there is no spoon there is no trigger there is no SOK. Reece became a lowly laboratory technician working at a nuclear plant owned by the Acme Atomics. Some stuff from DC like Lucifer Morningstar. Originally Beyonder was a mysterious cosmic entity from outside the multiverse who was more powerful than Galactus, The Celestials, and the entire Cosmic Compass. Pre retcon Beyonder is probably the closest you'd get, I'd say Lucifer could even beat the living tribunal, not really anyone else who comes close. The First and Second Retcon Beyonder are not above The LIving Tribunal. R1: Lucifer wins Mid-difficulty R2: Pre-recton beyonders wins high difficulty. Beyonder scaled above all. This is shown many times throughout Secret Wars 2. • Speed: The Beyonder doesn't have too many solid speed feats, Omnipresence isn't considered as a speed tier but rather a state of existence + he's only omnipresent within. Respect Pre-Retcon Beyonder. The Hand - Marked the beginning of creation. 8 years ago. The Classic Beyonder would be able to take Anti Monitor at full power out. @divinemaster: seeing no one is making an argument For Pre Retcon Beyonder, i will play the devil's advocate. In the comics Homelander’s best objective strength feat is throwing a fighter jet across a room and he doesn’t have anything comparable in the show. However, the Beyonder is beyond (pun wholly, shamelessly intended) simply universe level+. CC Goku is outerversal while in Uni Blue, meanwhile Pre retcon Beyonder as far as i know is high outer and has way better feats, apart from being part of a much larger cosmology. vs. R1/R2 - Depends which Post retcon as their is two, this goes for Molecule man also, the Half Cosmic cube MM and Beyonder and the Inhuman/mutant Beyonder and the Beyonders powered MM. Any of the Smash gods could do it, and so would the beings above. Followers. Interesting. Join this channel to get access to perks:…R1: Pre-Retcon Beyonder Takes Low-Mid Difficulty. M. Both are in character. CryptoName Owen Reece, Molecule Man Origin Marvel Tier: 1-B Gender: Male Classification: Mutant Age: Unknown Abilites and Powers: Matter Manipulation, Reality Warping, Space-Time Manipulation, Transmutation, Probability Manipulation, Molecular Manipulation Weaknesses: a non stable mind Destructive Capacity: Beyond Multiversal ( was able to. Gen. In the comics Homelander’s best objective strength feat is throwing a fighter jet across a room and he doesn’t have anything comparable in the show. Basically beyonder is being of infinite dimensions when He limits himself, but as beyond realm he is a creature that goes beyond all that. The molecule man destroys the machine and sends the enormous energies of the Beyonder into his beyond-realm forming a big bang and creating a new universe in the process - Scan 1, Scan 2, Scan 3, Scan 4 and Scan 5. #1 quandaledingle. Bernkastel vs her servant Will ( not an actual battle. than i understand from other blogs Pre-retcon Beyonder is High 1-A/ High Outerversal in beyond-realm. So with that highballed literalized reasoning that Beyonder is an Ocean to Marvel's Existence and Multiverse and Gods like a droplet, Pre-Retcon Beyonder is at least, more than One hundred and. as omnipotent deities in their respective realities, the OAA Dominates the Hoi Realm. Rune King Thor can't beat Omnipotential beings such as The Beyonders and Cosmic Cubes. @Metalslash said: MJJ wins. The One Above All; Beyonder (Pre Retcon). Thanos with the HOTU is more powerful than LT as well, though I can't remember any massive feats he had. Rune King Thor is still under beings such as The Living Tribunal infinitely. Tier Sıralamasını benden iyi biliyorsan Elder Scrolls taki Dragonborn, Kratos ve Dante gibi karakterlerin tüm Mcu. Pretty sure he can't do shit to The Presence lol & there's also Lucy & Michael there. About Pre-retcon/Classic Beyonder. And he has just way more hax and reality manipulation against the mostly physical Goku to handle! 11. The Pre-Retcon Beyonder is literally millions of times more powerful than the Marvel creation which contains infinite multiverses upon infinite multiverses upon infinite multiverses and so on. Introduction on The Beyonder: OHOTMU v2 #16: The Beyonder was an extra-dimensional entity which was the sum of everything in the universe known as the Beyond-realm, and became aware of our universe/multiverse due to Owen's. True Darkseid might actually have a chance though. Round 10: Presence And GEB ( Respect Thread for GEB) Both are. @mr-yes: Yeah I don't see how this makes him stronger than this Beyonder, who tangibly bypassed all of Marvel cosmology (even the parts supposedly "beyond" it) and did his Pre-Retcon feats as a. Conditions of the battle: *Composite Time Lords will include variants of the Time Lords from the Expanded Doctor Who Universe (e. 7 days to create the earth and heavens, vs instantaneous re-ordering of the cosmos.